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la_vie_noire ([personal profile] la_vie_noire) wrote2009-01-05 06:44 pm
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Wow. And here I thought we were near the end. But no! We have new... creatures. Exterminators or something. Kinda grotesque, but I like them. I wonder what it means that they have their eyes and mouths sewn, if it means something (I know it isn't exactly an unpopular design, but).

But Helen and Deneve. Helen and Deneve.

Helen, what a way of dealing with Isley. She got really strong. And Deneve. And their arguing. For a moment I thought Deneve was going to kiss her or something.

HELEN: I guess we are just stuck with one another like always, huh?

DENEVE: Well, it was just the two of us to begin with. I suppose it wouldn't be too bad for things to end in the same way.

Seriously, Isley looks decadent. Those exterminator-things have to eat him or something. Decadent, I tell you. I know Helen made that discourse to Miria, but... no. I'm not going to accept it. It wouldn't make sense for them to die at this point. Later, maybe. But with Isley there? No. No.

I don't want to make another entry so, Political Privilege and Priorities by Aaminah Hernández. Palestine, Gaza. And priorities, I thought I had to recommend it.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I really loved that link, thank you for that.

"I'm sure many Muslims feel this way; that you cannot speak with non-Muslim family and friends about certain topics because your “Muslimness” gets in the way and you really don't want to know how differently they see the world from you. Even amongst fellow Muslims, if you don't follow a certain pre-defined line of thinking, if you are in any way critical of methods that have already failed or situations that seem less than ideally Islamic, you are told that you aren't being a “good” Muslim. So, enough with that. I'm going to say some unpopular things in a moment and you don't have to agree with me, but I hope it makes you think."
Is it hilarious that I can whole heartedly related with everything in this paragraph, except copy-pasting "Jewish" instead of Muslim >_>;

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think that when you are part of a minority group, you are always at the risk of making the majority uncomfortable, and/or to look like a 'traitor' to your peers. But heck, I know the degree and the way of this varies. I'm sure Muslim women of color are in a specially bad position right now with our political climate. :/
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
In the US, oh yes, I bet. :(

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, pretty much everywhere in the west. Maybe not at US's degree, but, yeah.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the issues are slightly different in Europe - not better but more centered with problems related to colonialism and post-colonialism; whereas the mainstream position about the Israelo-Palestinian conflict - and the pressures that go with it - are quite different from the way it is in the US. Of course I can't claim to know first hand, so...

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. I'm sure things are different. I didn't mean it wasn't. But I still think that from a Muslim Woman of color point of view things shouldn't be exactly easy. Like, I... don't know, but I kinda doubt those white-liberal-leftist prejudices and moral superiority isn't present.

not better but more centered with problems related to colonialism and post-colonialism

Oh, just curious, but do you mean that people are more centered in eradicating colonialism, or that the problems are due to colonialism and post-colonialism over Muslim people? I think it was the latter, but my english sucks and I'm curious. ^^;;
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
but I kinda doubt those white-liberal-leftist prejudices and moral superiority isn't present.
No. Definitely not. But the argumentation around Israel and Palestine is quite a bit different in specific.

Oh, just curious, but do you mean that people are more centered in eradicating colonialism, or that the problems are due to colonialism and post-colonialism over Muslim people?
I mean that our dear president Mr Sarkozy had the guts to say we should reenvision France's colonial past also emphasying the benefits that colonialism was for the autochtones rather than only the bad, because, supposedly, France is doing such a good job at assuming the bad it did to all its colonies (or what it does presently, especially in Africa). Yeah, not really the former.

My English's hardly perfect either.

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Here things around Israel-Palestine are presented in a different light too. But still, isn't exactly devoid of Islamphobia.

benefits that colonialism was for the autochtones

... What? And... what?. Dear God, lets forget genocide for a moment and... focus on the good of it! Because... it totally had good things.
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
... What? And... what?. Dear God, lets forget genocide for a moment and... focus on the good of it! Because... it totally had good things.
And let's forget the economic and human exploitation, the slavery that France did participate in (not just the US like they like to believe), the ethnocide and cultural eradication, the torture during Algeria's war of independance, and the condoning of dictatorship after the decolonisation. Colonialism helped "civilize" these people, out of the greatness of France's heart. Urgh.

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Civilize. God. That's.. just. Not surprising. Still disgusting. Sometimes I just want to... slap people in their faces.

What? European countries are not part of colonization and of a capitalist system that still take millions of lives in 'The third world'? That's 'civilization' for you.

So the new thing is 'we are not USA so those savages we are killing have to be thankful to us'?
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[identity profile] etrangere.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Slap, yes. Or vomit on them.

So the new thing is 'we are not USA so those savages we are killing have to be thankful to us'?
I think that's the smug superiority behind a lot of Anti-Americanism, yes. I don't mind blaming the US for the awful shit it does, but when it results in being blissfully blind to the similar shit in European countries' past and present, it does piss me off.

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, totally with you on that last thing. I have heard that, a lot.

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Sabía que podía contar contigo para saber cuándo salía el nuevo capítulo. o/ *va a leer*

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
*ya lo leyó* kjfkjdklfajlkdjflaksjdflkj cosas feas ;;

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
XDDD Lo son. :S Pero mientras puedan comerse a Isley... XP

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Para algo tenía que servir. XD

BTW que las teorías conspiratorias aumentan.

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Pos sí. XP

Jos, no lo dudes. XD Ahora tenemos zombies. XP

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
¿Habrá vampiros y hombres lobo más adelante? =O */silly*

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol. Pero Mujeres lobo, mujer.

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, rite.

Aunque pueden ser lo otro y ser lame. As usual. xp

[identity profile] fujurpreux.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Eso mismo. o/

[identity profile] padf00t.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
omg salió nuevo.

*Corre a leerlo.*

[identity profile] padf00t.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Dios los exterminators son creepy o qué DDD8

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Lo son. DDD: No sé de dónde salieron. XDD Ni pa que sirven. Ni.. nada. XP

[identity profile] padf00t.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Es que las cosas siempre tienen que suckear más para el mundo. Ya no sé cómo es que quedan pueblos de tantos que se han comido/destruido.

Deneve y. Helen.

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Pero es que yo no sé si esas cosas comen gente o qué. :S Parecen, al haber olido a Dietrich y dejarla en paz, pero... nunca se sabe.

HELEN Y DENEVE. CANON, Y/Y?

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
XDDDD ESTÁN PREPARADAS PARA MORIR JUNTAS. ;;

[identity profile] padf00t.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
A menos que vayan sólo a destruir casas al azar...

wtf YYY.

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-05 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Jaja, decís por lo que dijo Dietrich de 'más pueblos serán destruidos'? XD Bue, sí, buen punto. Igual, no sé para que aparecen a este punto de la historia. Es raro. raro raro.

:DDDD

[identity profile] makotomitsunari.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
que!??? capi nuevo!??? capi nuevio!!????????
ufaaa, lo demas esta en ingles...T_T no, no, no, noooooo
buen... me voy a leer el capi.....*caminando co la cabeza baja*

[identity profile] makotomitsunari.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
vale, no lei nda..... no lo necontre XD

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
XDDDDDDDD Damn. :S Todavía no lo tradujeron al español. -___-U http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/87/ acá está en inglés, si querés.

[identity profile] makotomitsunari.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
oohhh, gracias... a ver!!! :P voy a ver igual...
:P

[identity profile] makotomitsunari.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
ya lo leiii!!! oooohhh.... O_O que demonios son esos demonios!? claymore que fallaron pero........ se despertaron raro? XD despertados que los hicieron experimentos y los cosieron para que..... em..... no molestarna muhco? XD disoes.. que bizarro....
mnnn, me suena que deneve y la otra - que no me acuerdo el nombre ahorita - pelearan un cacho con ishley y luego se iran corriendo, lo knokearan un poco nomas....
es cierto... no pueden morir tan gratuitamente... aunque, si lo hacen realista, no todas las muertes son por uan causa.... a lo mejor con ellas intentan darle el toque de 'murieron porque si'..... no se...
besotes! igual lo quiero releer en español... hay detallitos que no entendi .....:P
besotes

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Bue, a ver como se escapan, igual, no lo veo demasiado loco, viendo que helen le pateó el trasero a isley. XD Isley anda mal, definitivamente.

Pero es que no tiene sentido, no las salvaron de Pieta pa traerlas a esto. XP Es que justo las slvaron a las 4 'principales' en Pieta, y a tres más. XP

Bue che, cuando salga en español te aviso!

[identity profile] arkray.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Que leches son esos bichos nuevos????????????????????????

Ya me habia olvidado que Deneve se regenra (ese brazo ya es el 3ro o el 4to no? XDDD)

Como se ha liado la cosa...... pero MOLA!!!!!! Deberian hacer un juego 'decente' de este manga........

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Ni idea. XDDDD

No, para Deneve eso no es nada. Total es defnsiva, y sí, ya va por el.. no sé. XP

XDD Tiene juegos? :S

[identity profile] arkray.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yaya, pero la impresion de que se habia cargado a Denev hace un mes fue impactante :D

Creo que si, me suena haber visto fotos en algun scan, pero esos juegos japos que son un asco. Yo queria decir uno 'occidental' y bueno como el Witcher.....

Se me ocurrio... esos zombies no seran tipo frankestein hechos de trozos de claymores muertas no? no se, dan grima.... y parece que deespiertan solo una parte del cuerpo como Claire...

[identity profile] la-vie-noire.livejournal.com 2009-01-08 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
En serio? yo ni siquiera lo consideré hasta que la gente empezó a decir 'está Deneve muerta?' y yo era 'NO DUDE. ESA MUJER HA SOBREVIVIDO A PEORES.' XD

Ah, mira vos. Hmm, no me gustaría ver un Claymore occidental, sinceramente. XP

Te juro, ni idea, he pensado en muchas cosas, pero.. ni idea. XP