Hiatus

[la_vie_noire]

Dios mío, se supone que debería estar studiando, y mirenme! -_-;

But, people, I have a doubt (it's really bugging me, because I'm like that)...

How is that XXXholic isn't about moral absolutism? Since I saw this rant, I'm wondering about it.

Because, how I see it, there is NOTHING relativist about Holic's moral. Yuuko leaves pretty clear what should and shouldn't be done, and how things work (isn't that the series thematic?).

Discuss? Please? (This wasn't to wank, I swear, just a friendly discussion because I want to know people's opinions.)

In the meantime, I will be studying. Until Friday then!

Comments

[suikascented.livejournal.com]

La verdad, nunca encuentro un significado profundo en ningun manga =/

[la-vie-noire.livejournal.com]

No importa, che! Ya sabés que te conservamos porque sos adorable y... nos haces reir! XDD

[suikascented.livejournal.com]

Me siento mascota...

Totally unrelated, pero has de ver un dorama. Sé que no es precisamente tu género preferido (en realidad es el primero que yo veo), pero creo que te gustará. Un resumen de lo que te vas a encontrar:
domestic violence emotional abuse homosexuality sexual phobia loneliness contradiction trust unrequited love silence bullying agony liberation friendship

Y ahora el linkeo =D
http://community.livejournal.com/ourhour/51718.html

[la-vie-noire.livejournal.com]

Uuuuuuuh!!! GRACIAS!! <3333 Y no sabés como me alegra que los episodios esten en partes! YAAAAY POR FIN PIENSAN EN MI. XDDDD

[suikascented.livejournal.com]

Ya me comentarás cuando la veas =DDDDDD Larga vida a las descargas directas!

[kaitou-marina.livejournal.com]

Yuuko's major quote: "What's good or what's bad... it's different for each individual."

THAT is moral relativism in a nutshell. Yes, actions have consequences, but in Holic's case, it's more of a "every action has an equal and opposite reaction" rather than anything dictated by human morals.

[la-vie-noire.livejournal.com]

OH. So that's where it came from! XDD

Well, it makes sense that people called it 'moral relativist,' but... I still don't agree. (But I understand it now! XD;;)

You see, we aren't in a universe where moral is relative (I'm talking about Holic's universe of course XD), where things you do doesn't have a impact that has a... solid moral resonance?

I mean, in the end Yuuko is still the moral authority, she dictates what is right and what is wrong. She said moral varies from individuals and you have to accept it because what she says is absolute. XDD

And really, by Holic and by the way Yuuko judges her clients, I would say that that 'difference between individuals' doesn't escape an universal judgment. I think, in the end, what is bad or good for one person is still subjected to XXXholic's moral, even if it can change (it can vary from person to person, but for an specific person in an specific situation? That's the moral absolute). It's not like moral relativism where there is NO judgment, and you can't make moral conclusions because it's so... relative.

Damn, this is so interesting. I love this subject. (... yeah, I'm weird.)

[arkray.livejournal.com]

Yo tambien creo que es relativo.... lo que es bueno para uno es malo para otro, eso es relativo... y holic es TODO el tiempo sobre eso.... y ademas Yuuko acostumbra a dejar escoger... SI quieres esto, esto te costara... ahora decide, escoge el que a 'tu' entender es 'tu' mal menor.....

[la-vie-noire.livejournal.com]

Si, entiendo, pero como le dije a Mari arriba, al final TODO tiene un impacto moral y se sacan conclusiones morales de eso. Que se pueda escoger tampoco queire decir 'relatividad moral'. Y me parece que Holic está bastante alejado de eso. XDD;;;

[arkray.livejournal.com]

VAya, pues si que tienes razon tambien.... al final Yuuko lo valora todo segun su moralidad y esa es la que vale, la que nos hace ver....

[la-vie-noire.livejournal.com]

Pues sí, yo la veo bastante absolutista pues. Toda obra de CLAMP tiene eseo, esa moral y esos juicios.