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la_vie_noire) wrote2010-02-28 03:40 pm
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Class and what's important
Because I was just having this conversation with my friend the other day about feminism and class.
The problem of saying you have to think of a movement as a class instead of considering the individualities and intersections with other oppressions that people experience is that movements are constructed around the experiences of the most privileged members of a group. There is no such a thing as "a class," there are movements full of people where some are more privileged than others. There is no "greater good" about ignoring oppressions that "are not the center" of said movement (really, "the center" are just the experiences of the most privileged who don't have to live with other oppressions).
FWD (feminists with disabilities) for a way forward: Feminism Objectifies Women.
Ask trans women about femininity, and how they are treated if they chose to act according to it. Yeah, a lot of the time it means death.
So there is no a "universal" women's experience.
The problem of saying you have to think of a movement as a class instead of considering the individualities and intersections with other oppressions that people experience is that movements are constructed around the experiences of the most privileged members of a group. There is no such a thing as "a class," there are movements full of people where some are more privileged than others. There is no "greater good" about ignoring oppressions that "are not the center" of said movement (really, "the center" are just the experiences of the most privileged who don't have to live with other oppressions).
FWD (feminists with disabilities) for a way forward: Feminism Objectifies Women.
You’ve heard the term “choice feminism” right? Usually used derisively by a person who is arguing: Just because a woman makes a choice does not make it a feminist choice, we have to be able to examine issues on a systemic rather than individual level, some choices that individual feels are good for them are actually going to be bad for the group as a whole and even bad for that individual when systemic issues are taken into consideration.
Here’s what annoys me about this argument. It always comes from the perspective of a white, cisgendered, currently nondisabled, middle-to-upper-class, heteronormative, and otherwise socially privileged person.
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Here’s the thing. Everything I just said above about “women”? Isn’t true for women. Rather, it is true for white women. Or cisgendered women. Or nondisabled women. It is not true for women as a class.
Yet we continually operate on the assumption that it is!
But ask some other women, sometime, what their experience has been. Many poor and lower-class women, for example, would gladly tell you that they have never had a whiff of an option to stay home with their children — they’ve been out there washing the rich women’s drawers, or sewing them in the first place, so that they can afford dinner for their family a few days out of the week. Ask a black woman about being a nanny and wet nurse. Ask both of those women, and a few mentally or physically disabled women, about when they had their children taken away from them or weren’t allowed to spend any time with them at all (apart from the time they spent cleaning up the messes of the children of those rich/white/nondisabled women they worked for). [...]
Ask the little girl with developmental disabilities about sex sometime, too. No one ever sees fit to give her any information on the subject. They fight to have her sterilized, or even be forced with serious drugs and surgical interventions to stay in a prepubescent state for the rest of her life, so that no one will ever have to deal with the messy proposition of a menstruating or pregnant r*t*rd girl.[...]
Ask the visibly disabled woman about being expected to dress up in skirts and high-heeled shoes. Everybody around her will wince at the thought of her in form-fitting, skin-showing clothing. Because, you know, “women” are oversexualized in that way. Ask her about those super-special parenting powers she supposedly has. Everybody around her will bristle at the thought of her having primary responsibility over a child. Because, you know, “women” are stereotyped as having those super-special powers.
Ask trans women about femininity, and how they are treated if they chose to act according to it. Yeah, a lot of the time it means death.
So there is no a "universal" women's experience.