la_vie_noire | (no subject)

Watson as Lucy Liu AND Holmes as Gina Torres?

Ahahahahah. OMG. Plain orgasm.

WAAAAAAAAAAAANT OMG.

IKR? THIS.

THIS!

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This post more than makes up for the "D: WTFNO" reaction I read a while ago. Hee.

Agh. If I have those in my reading list, I don't want to know.

No -- was a local friend. I bit my tongue before I could comment on her post. I don't know sometimes, Vie. I feel like we're mired in so much internalized racism and colonial mentality, it's more than enough work just not to drown.

Arg. The level of bulshitting around this shit is amazing. Just. If you want to keep your bullshit? Get away from me. I don't want to hear it.

To be honest, I'm torn between "YAY! Awesome character as a woman and a person of colour!" and "... they are doing it so they can have a romance/sexual tension between the main characters but no gay people, right".

Soooo maybe I'm more cynical than I thought. :|

Well, are there any non-fannish iterations of Holmes and Watson in which they are, in fact, gay?

I'd rather have a casting/acting choice that is ACTUALLY progressive than one that isn't really but which we can PRETEND is progressive.

As far as I know, it's not canonical in any version, no (though I'm not a Holmes expert).

I didn't mean to make it sound as if they are erasing gay characters, and I know realize that it sounds like that. What I was trying to say is that I have the feeling that they didn't make this choice because it's progressive, but simply because having UST between the main characters is pretty much a requirement in mainstream US shows and I don't think they'd do it if both are the same gender.

That said: I'd rather have a casting/acting choice that is ACTUALLY progressive than one that isn't really but which we can PRETEND is progressive.
I definitely agree with that.

*now realize

they didn't make this choice because it's progressive, but simply because having UST between the main characters is pretty much a requirement in mainstream US shows and I don't think they'd do it if both are the same gender.

Dude. I don't know what their intention is. Casting Watson as a woman of color IS progressive.

*More progressive than casting a white cis man who isn't going to have a sexual relationship, but people aren't going to complain anyway because is a cis white male.

I actually agree with that, that's what I was trying to say in my last paragraph. I said I'm pretty cynical about why they're doing it, but if the end result is good I'm not going to complain about it.

... not that I was going to complain otherwise. That didn't translate into English well. /facepalm

En castellano así dejo de enredarme: me parece bien que hayan elegido a una mujer de color, no les creo mucho que lo hayan hecho por razones progresistas. Pero lo importante es el resultado.

Y sí, supongo. Igual, si querían, le ponían a una mujer blanca, pero no lo hicieron. Pero que sé yo, a mi el fandom y su reacción me dejó bastante jodida. XD

La verdad no vi la reacción del fandom, no soy muy fan de Holmes y en mi esquinita lo único que vi es "por qué hay una versión gringa". Peeeero me la imagino bastante, sí.

Pfft, yo la vi, y la re vi. En Tumblr no se escapa nada.9_9

Yo en Tumblr me quedo en una esquinita bien chiquita porque aparentemente saca lo peor de los fandoms, por alguna razón. :|

En serio que sí. -_-

Uhm. But they still haven't show anything. If someone going to assume for every female character out there... heck, f I want to, I can say they make the "slash subtext" to please the slash fans who loves their white men.

Anyway, what I really mean is: woman of color >> cis white man. I don't care about anything else.