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The one issue I’m not seeing as feminist bloggers ask these questions is: How then do we preserve women’s sports? I’m interested in practical answers. It seems like the wrong answer to desegregate or let those who have the biological traits we associate with men to compete, because what that would functionally mean is the end of women in sports. Women simply cannot compete at the highest levels with individuals whose bodies have masculine strength, height, and power.

The IAAF handled this badly, and they acted like Semenya cheated. They may have a too stringent line for what is “female”. But a line, where everyone is competing against everyone else, female athletes by and large would fall off the map. It would be a shame, for instance, to have people like the Williams sisters languish in obscurity because they simply can’t break into the top ranks of players if they’re forced to compete against men.

None of this discredits the critiques you’re offering. I’m simply interested in your practical response. How do we accommodate the problems you outline without desegregating and ending women’s sports?

Guess who was that? Amanda Marcotte. Now the representative of white, cis feminism everywhere.

Wonder yourself woman why you "aren't seeing" that.

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Take a deep breath and let go. Paying attention to Marcotte is like watching fly eggs in turds become insects. Sure it's fascinating, but it's also pretty disgusting, involves inhaling foul air, and really your time could be better spent.

Ahahaha, pretty accurate.

dude, the logic doesn't even compute. Yeah, right, not discriminating against Intersex women will make it impossible for cisgender women to compete in any sport, ever. What. The. Fuck.

Yeah, I mean, feel sorry for cis-women! With all the emotional distress they are causing the poor woman, I wonder if Semenya will compete again.

The argument is stupid. And shows how a lot of people don't even try to make a decent research about intersex, testosterone and how it affects intersex people, how anabolic steroids are measured to catch doping, and the hypocrisy of women sports in dealing with intersex women (men with natural hight levels of testosterone over competitors, or people with any other kind of "biological advantage" aren't never disqualified and ripped off their medals).

What the FUCK is she even talking about? I went and read the post she responded to and no, really, WHAT?

I don't know, I guess she saw an opportunity to show her ass, and went all "yeeehaaaaa!" I think it's a hobby of her.

What the actual fuck? I mean, WHAT the actual fuck?

I know. You know she is a very mindful and sensitive woman.

I was going to write something but I scrolled down and the ignorance in the thread was too crazy making. Mama! And these are supposed to be feminists!

Yeah, well, that's feministe for you. Even the OP was kinda... uhm. I feel for Orenstein, but it's kinda telling that they are using the experience of a woman born cis to feel empaty with Semenya. ("what would the difference be, say, between myself and a pre-op female-to-male transsexual?" Uhm)

Fuck her.

Exactly.

wow..that is everything I have come to expect from the Feministe bloggers.

Yeah, it's just fail after fail.

speaking of cissupremacist fail, have you seen what Renee is up to?

http://voz-latina.livejournal.com/25083.html

you will not be amused.