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la_vie_noire) wrote2010-07-08 02:23 am
la_vie_noire) wrote2010-07-08 02:23 am
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Yeah, still reading shonen manga. Not much energy for anything else
World Cup's over (for me because at least people here are more quiet about it) and things go back to the normal: Reborn resumes with deux-ex-machina for its background, and its fandom keeps being as misogynist as usual.
Anyway...
I still like the Shimon/Vongola conflict.
Vongola betrayed Shimon. Shimon's first boss was like a brother to Vongola's Primo. Primo wanted to conquer Europe (?), Shimon's boss helped him. Shimon Boss waited for Giotto in a particular fight, Giotto never showed up. Shimon Boss was then killed. Dismembered actually. Vongola hid/erased all records of the incident so not even Vongola future bosses knew about it and the surviving Shimon members were blamed for the defeat and treated like war criminals. Shimon family was doomed to shame and humiliation for generations.
When the Ninth said that he never heard of that story Adelheid responded, "that's because Vongola's rotten inside and out. Your ancestors tried to hide the truth in order to throw all evidence of their errors into darkness." Very interesting line.
Julie also responds mocking, "though you would say that, 'never heard of it-! I don't know what you are talking about-!'"
Tsuna reacted to this by telling Shimon with lot of shonen-conviction and emotional-superiority that Giotto will never do something like that.
While Enma and Aoba looked struck by this (God knows why), Adelheid just told him very calmly to be quiet because they didn't have any reason to listen to him, they are the ones who had to do the talking. Oh, I loved that; how right she was, they were silent for a long time after all.
If the story told by Adelheid was true, then I don't doubt it will be a parallel to the letter misunderstanding in which Tsuna never showed up to Enma. Giotto said to their descendants that The Sin (which seems to be Shimon Boss blood) is the blood that never has to be forgotten. That could be guilt. In that scenario he still would have condemned Shimon to bear with the blame though.
This now-weak family condemnation to misery and oppression by powerful family with history-erasure, hidden-truth, Shimon wanting revindication, etc., kinda rings of something. This is so ridiculously shonen that it makes me very uneasy. Let's see how it goes.
But as you see, Adelheid keeps being extremely awesome (even if she is ridiculously over-sexualized), being Shimon member with more agency, talking, and control. Including Enma.
This could end being as misogynist as fandom wants it to be, so maybe she could be some kind of machinator/manipulator of Enma through this Past thing though.
If this ends as something like, "past doesn't matter, Giotto was innocent/misunderstood and you shouldn't keep with those grudges, even if it kinda ruined your life and dismembered your boss..." I'm kinda going to... laugh. Because I shouldn't have expected any better.
I'm still hoping the fights are awesome with Suzuki kicking Hibari's ass (at least in the first fight, God knows I'm sure there will come a lot of training here). That would be like the best thing ever.
Anyway...
I still like the Shimon/Vongola conflict.
Vongola betrayed Shimon. Shimon's first boss was like a brother to Vongola's Primo. Primo wanted to conquer Europe (?), Shimon's boss helped him. Shimon Boss waited for Giotto in a particular fight, Giotto never showed up. Shimon Boss was then killed. Dismembered actually. Vongola hid/erased all records of the incident so not even Vongola future bosses knew about it and the surviving Shimon members were blamed for the defeat and treated like war criminals. Shimon family was doomed to shame and humiliation for generations.
When the Ninth said that he never heard of that story Adelheid responded, "that's because Vongola's rotten inside and out. Your ancestors tried to hide the truth in order to throw all evidence of their errors into darkness." Very interesting line.
Julie also responds mocking, "though you would say that, 'never heard of it-! I don't know what you are talking about-!'"
Tsuna reacted to this by telling Shimon with lot of shonen-conviction and emotional-superiority that Giotto will never do something like that.
While Enma and Aoba looked struck by this (God knows why), Adelheid just told him very calmly to be quiet because they didn't have any reason to listen to him, they are the ones who had to do the talking. Oh, I loved that; how right she was, they were silent for a long time after all.
If the story told by Adelheid was true, then I don't doubt it will be a parallel to the letter misunderstanding in which Tsuna never showed up to Enma. Giotto said to their descendants that The Sin (which seems to be Shimon Boss blood) is the blood that never has to be forgotten. That could be guilt. In that scenario he still would have condemned Shimon to bear with the blame though.
This now-weak family condemnation to misery and oppression by powerful family with history-erasure, hidden-truth, Shimon wanting revindication, etc., kinda rings of something. This is so ridiculously shonen that it makes me very uneasy. Let's see how it goes.
But as you see, Adelheid keeps being extremely awesome (even if she is ridiculously over-sexualized), being Shimon member with more agency, talking, and control. Including Enma.
This could end being as misogynist as fandom wants it to be, so maybe she could be some kind of machinator/manipulator of Enma through this Past thing though.
If this ends as something like, "past doesn't matter, Giotto was innocent/misunderstood and you shouldn't keep with those grudges, even if it kinda ruined your life and dismembered your boss..." I'm kinda going to... laugh. Because I shouldn't have expected any better.
I'm still hoping the fights are awesome with Suzuki kicking Hibari's ass (at least in the first fight, God knows I'm sure there will come a lot of training here). That would be like the best thing ever.